Quiz Show • Season 31 Finale

Dec 4

To close out Season 31, we turned the microphones over to someone who knows us better than almost anyone in our community: Melissa Bacheler, our DiscordMom, friend, and occasional chaos agent. Instead of the usual coaching, planning, and problem-solving, Melissa surprises us with a full-blown quiz-show-style conversation designed to reveal stories we’ve never told on air. No points, no pressure—just questions that spark nostalgia, laughter, and a surprising amount of self-reflection.

Melissa steers us through three big categories: personal hobbies, memories from childhood and adolescence, and a handful of wildly imaginative “what if” scenarios. Nikki talks about her deep love of puzzles, watercolor, country music, and solitude. Pete shares his affection for filmmaking, collaborative storytelling, woodworking, and turning every car he’s ever owned into a “Doctor.” Together, they trade stories about childhood fears, nicknames that should never have been uttered in public, their dream cars, early celebrity crushes, and the music that scored each decade of their lives.

And then Melissa goes for the big swings: Who would coach Pete if he could choose any fictional character? How would Nikki run the show if Pete were abducted by aliens—or voluntarily uploaded to the cloud, which frankly sounds inevitable? The answers—if you’ve listened to the show long enough—are deeply on brand.

This is a relaxed end-of-season celebration with the person who keeps our Discord running and our community grounded. Thank you for an incredible Season 31—and yes, Season 32 begins in the new year!

Links & Notes

Pete Wright
Hello, everybody, and welcome to Taking Control, the ADHD podcast on TrueStory FM. And I'm here with Oh my God, it's Nikki Kinzer and Melissa Bachelor Discord mom.
Nikki Kinzer
Hello.
Pete Wright
Zoink Scoob Uh So
Nikki Kinzer
Hi, Melissa
Melissa Bacheler
Hello. Sorry, I'm not I'm not used to saying hello. Usually I'm in Discord and I don't I don't say hello out loud. I type it.
Pete Wright
Do you know what you w really you should just we put your mic up to your keyboard and type everything, every response.
Nikki Kinzer
That's right
Pete Wright
That would be on brand. We are doing a very special season 31 finale episode. And Melissa, I don't even know why I'm talking. You are the host. of our special game show finale uh and um we're gonna be doing a lot answering a lot of questions and I'm very excited about that. But first, don't forget the usual stuff. Head over to take controladhg. com to get to know us a little bit better. Listen to the show right there on the website or subscribe to the mailing list. We'll send you an email each time a new episode is released. This is the last episode of our 31st season, but fear not that there is a season 32. We are obviously coming back. We're just taking a little uh bit of our extended holiday break. And we will be back in the new year. We're very excited about it. But that doesn't mean you can't support the show and support all the good stuff that we're doing behind the scenes while we're on our break. So visit patreon. com slash the ADHD podcast. While we're not producing brand new episodes, you can jump into the Discord server. You can chat with fellow ADHDers. You can get access to the Triple Secret channels depending on the level that you sign. up for we would love you to be there we need you to be there this show needs supporters just like you if you're already a supporter thank you so much and uh If you are not yet, water's warm, come on in, patreon. com slash the ADHD podcast to learn more. Melissa, the floor is yours.
Melissa Bacheler
Very nice of you guys to have me on again. We actually did something similar to this. It's been a few years. uh where it was more or less like a quiz show uh set up before. And uh one of our community members mentioned that they had recently listened to the episode. And was like, you guys need to do another one because that was really fun. And uh luckily they mentioned that early enough that we could uh put something together.
Pete Wright
Actually do it.
Melissa Bacheler
In time for our final episode for the season.
Pete Wright
In time for
Melissa Bacheler
Speaking of, I'm really glad you mentioned that there's a season 32. I was nervous for a second that maybe y'all brought me on to be like, hey, this is gonna be it.
Nikki Kinzer
And then goodbye.
Pete Wright
Goodbye.
Melissa Bacheler
So Mm-hmm. Super glad that there's a new season coming.
Pete Wright
Yes.
Melissa Bacheler
I decided to do something a little bit different this time. So there are no points involved. It's not really a quiz show, so to speak. But more of a let's get to know our podcast co-hosts a little bit better and ask them a few questions Um there kind of I have kind of like um sequestered the questions into a couple of different categories. Things like hobbies, looking back. at uh earlier times of your life and then a few like what if questions. This was really just uh something to do that would be a little bit uh fun and um allow us to kind of unwind and take a break as we are happen to be right now in the holiday season uh and uh we're ending our
Nikki Kinzer
Yeah.
Melissa Bacheler
podcast season, um, that this would be a fun way to wrap things up. So are you guys ready to answer a few questions?
Nikki Kinzer
I think so.
Pete Wright
Let's do it.
Melissa Bacheler
Do you promise to answer with the truth, all the truth, and nothing but the truth?
Pete Wright
You promise you
Nikki Kinzer
Yes, I promise.
Melissa Bacheler
All right, good.
Pete Wright
Yes.
Melissa Bacheler
Um, I mentioned that the first category was about hobbies.
Pete Wright
Um I went to some but
Melissa Bacheler
I actually entitled it Hobby Lob E. Meaning I like lobbing or throwing things and I'm tossing questions at you. So it's hobby lobby.
Pete Wright
Oh that's good. I thought all the hobbies had to be involving throwing things, but I'm glad.
Melissa Bacheler
Yeah, yeah. Oh no. Alright. So uh first question is pretty simple. What are some of your favorite hobbies? or activities that you like to do, but that you like to do by yourself
Pete Wright
Like like you might have
Nikki Kinzer
All of my hobbies I do by myself because I'm an introvert
Pete Wright
Nikki's number one hobby is being by herself.
Melissa Bacheler
I don't I don't like doing anything fun with people.
Nikki Kinzer
I love being by myself. I have no problem with that.
Melissa Bacheler
Nothing wrong with that
Nikki Kinzer
Yeah. Um, reading. I like to read. I always have a book that I'm reading.
Melissa Bacheler
Yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
And puzzles. I love doing puzzles. I always have a puzzle on the dining room table. And
Melissa Bacheler
So like uh can we uh clarify puzzle is like the puzzle pieces you're putting together a picture.
Nikki Kinzer
Yes, it has to be 1,000 pieces.
Melissa Bacheler
Okay
Nikki Kinzer
And there are particular type of puzzles that I like. I like ones that are very colorful that are easier to put together. 'Cause then it's more fun. So like it's something that's just like a sky and a field, I would hate.
Pete Wright
Yes.
Nikki Kinzer
Right?
Pete Wright
Right?
Nikki Kinzer
Like I need to have lots of color and things like that.
Pete Wright
Like I think well.
Nikki Kinzer
Um and why I do my puzzles, I like to watch Dateline or 2020, some kind of true crime as I'm doing my puzzles.
Pete Wright
Um and like I think
Nikki Kinzer
That's usually what I'm doing. Um And I Yeah.
Pete Wright
I I like to watch shows about about child predators.
Melissa Bacheler
I enjoy this. It's really painting a picture.
Nikki Kinzer
And sometimes I'll have some candy, like Mike and I's I had Mike and Ike's last night with Mike. puzzle. And that was fun. Um and then the other thing I like to do by myself is watercolor. So I like to paint. Yes.
Pete Wright
I like to do puzzles and search the website for locations of registered sex offenders.
Nikki Kinzer
Don't do that
Melissa Bacheler
Honestly, that is really just playing it safe in your own neighborhood.
Nikki Kinzer
Right? Yeah, exactly. That's just being cautious.
Pete Wright
Oh no.
Melissa Bacheler
Don't go to that house during Halloween trick-or-treat.
Nikki Kinzer
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, those are the three things that I try to do every weekend or, you know, get some time in.
Melissa Bacheler
But What about you, Pete? What do you like to do by yourself?
Pete Wright
Oh, I I watch a lot of movies and TV shows and I do it I do it for a a podcast, a series of podcasts, but I would do it anyway. Just I just like immersing myself in those things. I I just I like to mess around with a lot of creative uh tools. I you know you'll probably find like if I could make More of my information management systems, like just playing in Obsidian, I could do that for hours and hours. hours and hours just for fun. Um I also have a newfound love of the lathe of turning wood. Um and so I'm I'm having a lot of fun with that.
Melissa Bacheler
Fine
Pete Wright
I don't do it nearly enough because I have to use my next door neighbors wood shop to do it and so it's not like in my house, but I am making a bowl right now. I'm in in bowl progress and I'm pretty excited about it. So Um, I think when I retire, I think I'll go back when I was in high school, we had a a pottery studio and I spent all my my non-academic time throwing pots on the wheel. And I loved that. I made plates, I made vases, I made jugs, I made uh bowls, I made all kinds of things. I think that's something it's the it's probably the one thing that I do uh with my hands that is that is not somehow technology related that I um that I that I really really love. I I like getting dirty with clay. It's a very ghost kind of moment. Um so that's that's it. That's that's one of my favorites
Melissa Bacheler
I will say it's it's not really a ghost moment because in that one she didn't do it by herself.
Pete Wright
No, she didn't. And I but I do when I do it, I imagine hundreds of ghost hands on the pot at the same time.
Nikki Kinzer
Around the pot.
Melissa Bacheler
Hundreds.
Pete Wright
Yeah. Yeah, it's a real party.
Melissa Bacheler
Hundreds.
Nikki Kinzer
That's creepy.
Pete Wright
It's a ghost party pottery party.
Melissa Bacheler
I thought you were just gonna say that you just imagined you were doing with Patrick Swayze.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
Yeah, but that's creepy too.
Pete Wright
Well, it's it's all they're all Patrick's razy. I mean, come on.
Melissa Bacheler
Oh okay, hundreds of Patrick's Wazy hands.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Melissa Bacheler
Okay, that makes total sense.
Nikki Kinzer
Oh, that's so funny.
Pete Wright
I don't remember, was it the Naked Gun? It was the second Naked Gun movie, I think, where the where they had a a montage where Leslie Nielsen was behind. the whoever it was in the in the movie and it was like hands and then feet came up around the pottery and it was just really really gross. That was one of the funniest things for me.
Nikki Kinzer
That's funny.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Melissa Bacheler
Oh my. Lotta hands in that pottery.
Pete Wright
So many hands.
Melissa Bacheler
Well, do you guys have any hobbies that you enjoy doing with other people, like in a group, or at least with one other person?
Nikki Kinzer
Nope.
Pete Wright
I think N Nikki Nikki loves running from groups.
Nikki Kinzer
No, I'm kidding.
Pete Wright
That's her hobby.
Nikki Kinzer
Nope. I don't know. I'm kidding. I like going out on the boat in the summer with a group of friends. with with friends. I love that.
Melissa Bacheler
Well that sounds very nice.
Nikki Kinzer
It I love being on the water. I love having a beverage. I love being in the sun. I love chatting and just being in the water. So that's definitely something I like to do with the group.
Pete Wright
Man, we are different, different people.
Melissa Bacheler
I like that. I was gonna say Pete being not a fan of deep water would uh probably not enjoy that so much.
Pete Wright
Oh, God. Oh my god, it's just described the worst. The worst can you put the boat in dry dock and then give me a beverage? Like I'll be fine. I could sit on a boat in somebody's driveway. Um and for me, I love just like collaborative storytelling stuff.
Melissa Bacheler
Oh funny.
Pete Wright
I'm part of a of a number of groups that involve this this kind of of mentality like D D. I'm part of a collaborative uh storytelling uh writing group. We we write chapters of threaded hyperfiction uh that I love, love, love very much. And And I I think that's I I love the idea of working creatively with people, you know, to create new stories, right? I think that's that's really fun making something together like that.
Melissa Bacheler
That is really fun.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Melissa Bacheler
Actually you just reminded me.
Nikki Kinzer
I like playing games with people too.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
Like if we're having a social event, like if there's like a couple coming over or some family or like haul I mean we're in the holidays, so like
Melissa Bacheler
Oh yes.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
Thanksgiving, Christmas. I I like having games that we can play with people too. That's always fun.
Pete Wright
For sure.
Melissa Bacheler
Oh, for sure. Let's take one of your current hobbies that you mentioned. Let's pick one of the solo ones. And let's say that you have to turn that into your next career. And let's say that you expect it to be at least moderately successful. Maybe somebody's like, hey, I really like how you do that. Will you come do that for money? Which of your hobbies would you prefer to turn into a career?
Nikki Kinzer
That's easy for me. Brad and I have already talked about it, my husband and I.
Pete Wright
Puzzles?
Melissa Bacheler
Oh Mike and Ice.
Pete Wright
Can you do that?
Nikki Kinzer
No, we want
Pete Wright
It's definitely Mike and X.
Melissa Bacheler
Mike and Ike's in Day Line.
Nikki Kinzer
W yeah, right? Yeah. No, we want to get a little booth like at a Saturday market and half of the booth will be my watercolors and half of the booth will be his photography.
Pete Wright
No, we want to watch what I want.
Melissa Bacheler
Photography, oh my gosh
Pete Wright
Oh yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
And that's what we want to do in retirement. What whether anything sells or not doesn't matter. I just think it'd be fun.
Melissa Bacheler
Now, I'm curious because I love this idea.
Nikki Kinzer
Okay.
Melissa Bacheler
Could you do watercolor paintings of things that Brad takes pictures of and then someone could okay it's I uh see I don't know I've never seen your watercolors that's true it would be collaborative
Nikki Kinzer
Oh my gosh, you're asking way too much.
Pete Wright
That would be collaborative.
Nikki Kinzer
No, I guess I mean I see where you're going. He could he could because I like to do a lot of flowers and I'd like to get into landscapes. So he might he might I I might be able to do something like that. Who knows?
Melissa Bacheler
Like if he took a picture of a flower And then you did a watercolor of the same flower, then someone could buy both the photograph the photograph and the watercolor, or you know, one or the other.
Nikki Kinzer
And then I paint it. Look at you throwing out business ideas.
Pete Wright
Or you could send it off to Liberty Puzzles and have a laser-cut puzzle made out of your watercolor of a photograph.
Nikki Kinzer
Puzzle That's even that's a lot of stuff going on there.
Pete Wright
That is a lot of meta going on there.
Nikki Kinzer
Yeah.
Melissa Bacheler
Poor K no low stose. Why not do both?
Pete Wright
Yes.
Nikki Kinzer
Mm-hmm.
Pete Wright
I love that you throw in a little Spanish there. That just was really exciting.
Melissa Bacheler
Mm-hmm.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Melissa Bacheler
See.
Pete Wright
Okay.
Nikki Kinzer
Pete, what about you?
Melissa Bacheler
Beat
Pete Wright
I I would love to just write fiction full time. I'd love to that would be a lifestyle that I would really celebrate. I I think the, you know. The book market's tough right now, so I don't have a high reasonable assumption of success. But I do know that people um uh struggle with their technology. And uh I I actually have a a friend of mine who well actually you you know him, Dr. Dodge, who said, you know, if uh if all this podcasting fails, you should start a business called digital feng shui. where you help people take their organizational tools and their digital like libraries of documents and things and get them whipped into functional shape. um in a way that is super stress free. So it I that's one of those things that I think I could do I could do pretty well.
Melissa Bacheler
Except you call it digital fun shui because you said functional shape, so it's f-u-n-c-t shui.
Pete Wright
Yeah. But everybody knows my love for George Clinton and Prince, and so it would be digital funk shui f you.
Nikki Kinzer
Oh, of course it would be.
Pete Wright
NK. Yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
Of course.
Pete Wright
Look what we did. We just did some we did some brainstorming and it was great.
Melissa Bacheler
We did. We did. So I've learned that my hobby to turn into a business is to become you your uh managers.
Pete Wright
I wears that I wanted to be a little bit more.
Nikki Kinzer
Right, yeah.
Melissa Bacheler
And uh make sure that these ideas I'm helping you create, I'm getting a piece of the action.
Pete Wright
Yes. Yes, we will need it. Just a sniff, just a sniff off the top.
Nikki Kinzer
That's right. Yeah, that they keep going forward
Pete Wright
Yep.
Melissa Bacheler
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I'm liking this. I'm liking this business idea. We should we should talk after. Is there a hobby or an activity that you would do more regularly?
Pete Wright
Yeah, I'm just running.
Melissa Bacheler
if money or time were not an issue.
Pete Wright
Yes, but it's not something that we've talked about already. When I was in my twenties, one of my favorite things to do. And early 30s went was to travel with friends to big movie locations, like where movies were shot to to actually see where they were filmed. And there are entire industries now built around um around movie locations, not just like maps of the stars in LA, but like let's let's go to the on locations, you know, where they where they film major major movies and and find those places. I if there if money and time were no object, I would spend a lot of time traveling around. to movie locations, probably reenacting scenes. I've already done that with point break right here in Oregon. Like we've we've got lots of locations. The Goonies. Oh yeah, we could do that all day long. So that would be that that would be my my travel hobby, like le maybe leading Yeah, that that would be it. I I don't think I'd want to make that a career. I wouldn't want to lead tours. I just want to do it.
Melissa Bacheler
Right. No, this was more about just, you know, what would you do if money or time was not uh an issue or a factor.
Pete Wright
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Melissa Bacheler
I love that you do movie LARPing.
Nikki Kinzer
I would I think when you say hobby or activity, there's two things that come to mind.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
Hobby would be I I would love to have more time to to paint. Uh, but I also would love to have more energy to do it. Like I think it's one of those things like all of my hobbies take ener uh, they don't take energy because they're all like solo.
Melissa Bacheler
Oh that's true.
Nikki Kinzer
They're not hard things to do, right? But When you're when you've worked all day, it's like I don't really want to get the paints out. Like because I don't have a plate. Like I have to get them all out. And like, you know, there's all these steps that kind of cause friction, right? But um activity-wise, I'm with Pete, not necessarily the movie things, but I would love to travel more.
Melissa Bacheler
Travel.
Nikki Kinzer
I would love to be able to travel and see more of the world.
Melissa Bacheler
We're gonna go ahead and move on to another category that I have dubbed nostalgia nuggets. Which I just Yep.
Pete Wright
Sounds weirdly gross and thoughtful.
Melissa Bacheler
Did it that way on purpose because I w I
Pete Wright
I the first idea of Zelda and
Melissa Bacheler
Honestly, I first typed in Nuggets of Nostalgia, and that sounded too nice, and so I switched it Uh, but these are kind of just things looking back on your life, some early childhood, and um maybe things you haven't thought about in a while Like um, nicknames. Do you have any nicknames growing up or any time throughout your life?
Pete Wright
My dad was a terrible person. with nicknames and he he saddled oh my god he saddled me with um from my earliest days
Melissa Bacheler
Oh no, thank you for clarifying that.
Pete Wright
Why am I saying this on a podcast? He would call me Weastie.
Melissa Bacheler
I'm excited now.
Pete Wright
Weastie. Sometimes it would be Weastie Woewo.
Melissa Bacheler
Weasty.
Pete Wright
Weastie woe. Weaser. Weaser woe. Um, and that was it like well into adulthood to jerk. It it was un it's an unpleasant nickname that I uh you know, now he's dead, so I remember it fondly. But boy, when he was alive, it would when I was an adult and he would say, you know, hey we s uh uh uh grab the salt or something in front of a girlfriend like it was the end of my life. It was the end of my life.
Melissa Bacheler
Can I ask where that came from? I'm trying to figure out how that like
Pete Wright
Okay. Do you know nicknames are f uh I know, but I I started getting like we we have these Super 8 films.
Melissa Bacheler
It doesn't really go with the name.
Pete Wright
where he was calling me Whis on like when I was three, right? We have early audio tapes where he's recording me and letting me record. I'm like five years old and I'm referring to myself as that. Like You know, uh he had me he had me really conditioned when I was a little kid and that just that just stuck.
Melissa Bacheler
Really interesting.
Pete Wright
So we s I um I also when I was in college, um I I was an RA and I always had uh just sort of catalog of weird remedies. Like home like I had weird homeopathic remedies my mom would send me and I would just shove in a cabinet and close the cabinet. Um but everyone on my floor, it was a floor full of sixty freshmen and They all knew that if they ever had a pain anywhere, they would just come to me and they started calling me Doc. And so for years that that took over. Doc, Doc P, you know, that that was my nickname for a lot of years too. They st my my the guys I sang with in the a cappella group still call me Doc. So there you go.
Melissa Bacheler
Oh my gosh, that's so fun.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
Do you have a nickname for your wife?
Pete Wright
Nikki.
Melissa Bacheler
I love that
Nikki Kinzer
Or does your wife have a nickname for you?
Pete Wright
My wife uh no, it's terrible. She uh everybody in my life calls me Pete now. It's just Pete, plain old Pete, except for um Kira and my mother, they they call me Peter. Um except when they're talking about me. But when when I'm present, it's Peter. When it's about me to other people, it's Pete. That's what we've just discovered. Um, and it's a real struggle because you know Kira's name, Kira.
Melissa Bacheler
Interesting.
Pete Wright
There aren't any real natural nicknames. For Kira, there is there the D movie with Chris Pine, the daughter's name was Kira and he called her Kira over and over. And Kira, my wife, hates that. Says nobody ever does that to the name. name Kira. It's ridiculous. Don't ever do it. So as a result, I do it to Kira all the time. I call her Kira now. uh pretty zealously just to try to, you know, get her into it. It's not going great.
Melissa Bacheler
You'll wear her down.
Nikki Kinzer
She didn't love it.
Pete Wright
Like like water over a stone, eventually.
Melissa Bacheler
The Stockholm syndrome will kick in eventually, and she'll be on board.
Nikki Kinzer
Oh, gosh.
Pete Wright
I ha I yeah, I mean I've I've tried variants. Uh um you know, I've tried variants. It just nothing ever really takes She's she's practically nicknameless. In in high school. In high school, they called her Funky Fresh Kira Lee. That was her maiden name, Kira Lee. So they called her Funky Fresh. So sometimes I call her Funky Fresh. It's not doesn't she it's one of those anti nicknames. Like there was no there was no reason she was ever to be called funky fresh curly.
Nikki Kinzer
Right.
Pete Wright
But that's why it's funny.
Melissa Bacheler
That's amazing.
Pete Wright
Yeah, yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
That's crazy.
Pete Wright
Nikki.
Nikki Kinzer
Well, my uh nicknames are boring. It's Nick. People call me Nick, which obviously makes sense.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
Um, and that's really and then and then the one that my husband and I call each other is Bug. We've always called each other Bug.
Pete Wright
Oh. That's adorable.
Nikki Kinzer
And so and it's funny because uh we still do it even now and the kids will kind of laugh because you know there are little baby bugs.
Pete Wright
Oh, that's adorable
Nikki Kinzer
Yeah.
Melissa Bacheler
My gosh, that's so cute.
Nikki Kinzer
But yeah. So that's yeah, pretty boring.
Pete Wright
So my son is Nick.
Melissa Bacheler
Not blurring, it's adorable.
Pete Wright
My son is Nick, and he growing up we called him uh Nick Nickel the pickle.
Nikki Kinzer
Nickel the pickle.
Pete Wright
So and when he yeah, no he did so I still call him.
Nikki Kinzer
Oh, I'm sure he loved that.
Pete Wright
I we get somehow I don't remember how it happened, but we We started calling him Dr. Pickle. And so that became, now I just call him Doctor sometimes. Doctor, Dr. Pickle, Dr. Pickle. And then Sophie when she was born had really, really you know, the way like newborns their eyes aren't the ri aren't the color that they end up being.
Melissa Bacheler
Oh, right.
Pete Wright
They change, like over the course of the next six hours their eye colors. changes and Sophie's came out and they were like steel smokey blue eyes. So I call her smoke, smokey. That was her nickname for years. And so I still call her. that. Yeah. So that's uh that's the whole nickname story. I'm done officially with nicknames
Melissa Bacheler
I love Pete though how your nicknames for your kids tie to different things, like how you were called Doc when you were in college.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Melissa Bacheler
And how you have almost passed on that title to your son.
Pete Wright
I know.
Melissa Bacheler
I think that's really cute.
Pete Wright
Weird.
Melissa Bacheler
And for Sophie, how the smoke like I know that she was off fighting forest fires for a while and so I think that's fun too
Pete Wright
That's true. That's true. Oh, I didn't even make that connection.
Melissa Bacheler
Yeah.
Pete Wright
That's funny.
Melissa Bacheler
Alright, well enough of the sentimentality. Were you guys afraid of anything when you were kids specifically?
Pete Wright
Specifically, like each one.
Melissa Bacheler
Like any monsters, the dark, something under the bed?
Pete Wright
Um yeah, for I mean there is a time where I w you know, I mean I have anxiety. Like that manifested in funny ways as a child. Like yeah, I was definitely uh scared of things reaching out on under the bed when I was very little and I would run I would run into my room and do like a running long jump to get into the bed because I felt like if I walked up to the bed something would grab my foot and drag me on the body.
Nikki Kinzer
So
Pete Wright
So I had to jump over the there was like a red zone where no feet could be because they would get grabbed.
Melissa Bacheler
Yeah.
Pete Wright
Yeah. So I was I it was just a non-specific like bad juju under the bed that would get me.
Melissa Bacheler
Just something.
Pete Wright
So I I um yeah. I there there was definitely a period where I was I was scared of the dark as a little guy and uh I as I I think many people are. Um, and then I realized, oh God, you know how good you can sleep when it's really dark? And then I got over that.
Melissa Bacheler
Oh, so amazing
Pete Wright
So good. Yeah. Monsters, not really. I I don't think so. Nick.
Nikki Kinzer
I don't remember. I I I know I don't love to be in the dark, but I was never like afraid of it
Pete Wright
I know I think it's a good one.
Nikki Kinzer
Like, but my mom always had like a night light or a ha ha the hall light would be on or whatever. Um I didn't like spiders and I remember one time there was a spider in the corner of my room and I was uh crying and I was upset and I kept saying spider, but my dad thought I was saying fire because I wasn't saying it well. And so he's like, fire, where's the fire? And I'm like, it's right there, it's right there. And he's just like There's no fire. Um, but I had night terrors growing up, um, and I still do every once in a while.
Pete Wright
Oh I think
Melissa Bacheler
Yeah
Nikki Kinzer
Um, and so uh I would wake up screaming. And um yeah, it was it's crazy. Like I would wake up screaming and my parents just stopped coming in to see if I was okay or not because it was enough that they knew that I was just having a nightmare.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
Happened when I was in college. It happened when I lived in the sorority. That was fun. uh in a sleeping porch and yeah and screaming.
Pete Wright
Oof. Yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
Um happened when I was in my twenties, thirties, all the way up until even the house that I live in now, every once in a while I'll have a nightmare and I'll scream. And but everybody that's like my husband's used to it. So he's just kind of like, it's okay. It's all right. You're fine.
Pete Wright
Wow.
Nikki Kinzer
And then I wake up and I'm like, I'm so sorry.
Pete Wright
But that doesn't manifest in anything like during the day, like when you're aware.
Nikki Kinzer
No, no, it's all just like these little night terrors that I have that I wake up screaming.
Pete Wright
It's just when you're sleeping. I was yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
I know what they are, but I don't really want to talk about it because it will probably give me anxiety again.
Melissa Bacheler
No, no, no.
Nikki Kinzer
But Um there, yeah. But it's funny because you would think that um I would stop watching true crime or whatever, right?
Pete Wright
One would think out.
Nikki Kinzer
Like if I think somebody's in my house or whatever. But like I don't yeah, whatever.
Pete Wright
Well, that's I that's for me, as an adult, the things that scare me are are are I get from directly from the movies that that I watch.
Nikki Kinzer
It's just weird. That you're watching, yeah.
Pete Wright
Like, oh my god, Manhunter, the the first Hannibal Lecter movie.
Nikki Kinzer
Oh, yeah, no
Pete Wright
Um is i i it was before Anthony Hopkins was Hannibal Lecter, before Silence of the Lambs. And it is all about this Cuckoo bird, Coco Puff's guy who sits out it finds these houses with a lot of big windows. and just sits in trees across the the ditch from their house with binoculars and watches them in their house and then in the middle of the night breaks into their house while they're sleeping and and murders them all.
Melissa Bacheler
Yeah.
Pete Wright
And it's it's a horrible, horrible story. And That is my major malfunction is just like the permeability of homes being like you think they're safe spaces, but really it's very easy to get into them. home. Like it's very easy.
Melissa Bacheler
Yeah
Pete Wright
If someone wants to get into my home, it's very easy to do it to break a window in the guy. That stuff freaks me out as an adult. That's that is that's my my kryptonite.
Melissa Bacheler
Yeah. It's not so much the fantastical, but the things that can legitimately happen to anyone at any time.
Pete Wright
Yeah. Yeah.
Melissa Bacheler
And um We take in so much garbage, even just like on the news and around us, that uh and our brains tend to
Nikki Kinzer
Mm-hmm.
Melissa Bacheler
uh use that as crazy fuel to for our imaginations and uh send us down uh horrible spirals
Nikki Kinzer
Mm-hmm.
Pete Wright
Yes. Crazy fuel. That's me. Right.
Melissa Bacheler
That's why you gotta feed it with good stuff.
Pete Wright
I've like that good.
Nikki Kinzer
That's right.
Melissa Bacheler
Like celebrity crushes.
Pete Wright
Like the leverage rushes.
Nikki Kinzer
When we were a teenager
Melissa Bacheler
Yeah, teenager, young kid, even in your 20s.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Melissa Bacheler
What were some of your celebrity crushes?
Nikki Kinzer
Uh in my as a teenager, Ralph Macchio from The Karate Kid, I thought was
Melissa Bacheler
Oh
Nikki Kinzer
a beautiful human being, which is so funny because I do not think he's really that good looking now. But at the time I did. Um Ralph Machio. Um who else? Gosh, as a teenager, uh I'm trying to think of who would be up on my wall, like you know, when we would have like posters and stuff. But uh Not a lot of people are coming up for me. I can tell you, like now, I think Matthew McConaughey is really cute. I think Um, Bradley Cooper, Brad Pitt. Uh I think there's lots of very George Clooney, I think, is a very handsome man. Uh yeah, so I think there's lots of People, my husband, Brad Kinzer, so handsome.
Melissa Bacheler
Good save. Save the best for last on that list.
Nikki Kinzer
Yeah.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
Yeah.
Pete Wright
Yeah. Well i yeah, and that's actually that's easy for me to include because y Kira was my major crush when I was that age and then we got married. So it was easy. But I would say um controversial pick, uh Lori Laughlin From Family Guy, Uncle Jesse's wife.
Nikki Kinzer
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Pete Wright
Oh, I had a huge crush on her. And she uh is problematic now because of, you know.
Nikki Kinzer
The USC controversy, yeah.
Pete Wright
Yeah. Yeah, she's she's problematic, but but she was quite quite adorable. I think I was um Yeah.
Melissa Bacheler
You know what, she values education and that's all that matters.
Nikki Kinzer
Thank you for that, yeah.
Pete Wright
I I had a huge crush on Winona Ryder circa the Heathers days. I loved that movie so much and I thought, you know. I could I could pull off a movie like that. Problematic movie. Uh it's got some issues today, but um Robin Wright, Princess Bride era, Robin Wright. Ugh, God.
Melissa Bacheler
Oh, sure.
Pete Wright
Yeah. Um You know, I it was those those kinds of things were when I was a teenager. So I'm sure I'm sure there are others. I'm sure probably I if I could remember some names from like 90210 era.
Nikki Kinzer
Oh, that's true.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
Yeah, Luke Perry.
Pete Wright
Luke Perry would have been yeah, Shannon Doherty.
Nikki Kinzer
I always had a crush on Luke Perry. Yeah, he was cute. Mm-hmm.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
Yeah.
Pete Wright
Yeah. Interesting. Shannon Dorty was also in Heathers. Maybe that's the thing.
Nikki Kinzer
It's true.
Pete Wright
Okay.
Melissa Bacheler
Oh, little connection there.
Pete Wright
Alright. It's pretty much Fox prime time where all my crushes, Fox nailed Pete's crush, celebrity crushes.
Melissa Bacheler
That's fun.
Nikki Kinzer
It's funny.
Melissa Bacheler
Nice. I like it.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Melissa Bacheler
Uh what about during your teenage years, one of the big formative things and my son keeps reminding me he's fifteen years old and he keeps counting down the months until he can get his driver's license. And he always talks about the type of car that he expects or at least hopes to be able to drive. So my next question is. Around the time that you got your driver's license, what would you say your dream car would have been?
Pete Wright
Around it, yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
Well Let's see. I really didn't have a this is yeah, I really didn't have a dream car. Um, but I need to look it up and make sure that Yeah, so there was a car I really liked that um was a Dotson 510 and I loved how boxy it was. I always thought it was really cute. Um, but honestly, I was just so grateful to get a car that my parents bought for me and Um, you know, it was just it was a Mazda 626, I think. It was like a nineteen Mazda
Pete Wright
Oh, sure.
Nikki Kinzer
How do you spell Mazda 626? It was 1979. Yep, that's what it is. It was a 1979 uh Mazda 626, and I remember we bought it for under $2,000. And um You know, this was back in like what, nineteen eighty eight, maybe, or something like that.
Pete Wright
Sure.
Nikki Kinzer
Um I ran that thing down to the ground. Like there was an actual hole where where the um drivers, it like you could see the floor. I I had that car for the next and well, all the way up until graduation of well, no, actually even after graduation, I didn't get a new car until I was in my twenties.
Pete Wright
Yeah, well, all the way up to the back of the Well no actually not but was that your was that your dream car?
Nikki Kinzer
So I had that car for a long, long time. Took very good care of it because yeah, it was a precious thing. It meant freedom for me. No, not at all. It was a car that my dad just said, this is what you're getting.
Pete Wright
Yeah. So what uh do you have like a fantasy car out there that you you do you think about it?
Nikki Kinzer
No.
Pete Wright
You don't really think about cars like that.
Nikki Kinzer
Not at all. I don't at all.
Pete Wright
Well, I'm glad this question came up. Uh my first car was a sob Turbo, Sob 900 Turbo that we got from John Elway's wife, who was selling it, because she he was just becoming really he just signed with the Broncos and was making a lot of money and she was getting rid of her sob in order to get a Porsche. And I love that sob because it had the the sobs have the ignition, the key switch in the center console.
Melissa Bacheler
But
Pete Wright
So you put your key down under the brake. between the seats and I thought that was really fun. Um, but I did have this friend who you could pull the key out while the car was running and I'll never forget, like whenever he was in the passenger seat, he would take the key out and throw it out the window and the car would just keep going. And so we'd have to turn around and drive back and we couldn't turn the car off until we searched the side of the road for the keys. Anyway, yeah, he was a real treat.
Melissa Bacheler
Well, he sounds lovely.
Pete Wright
So I got that. I d I bottomed it out and cracked the bell housing on the transmission, lost that car forever. Uh I got a pickup truck for a little while. Uh again, very, very cheap just to get to work. But my uh my dream car at the time, they actually made a movie. About my dream car. And that dream car is not Herbie the Love Bug.
Melissa Bacheler
Herbie the Love Bug.
Pete Wright
My goodness. It's the Ford GT40 Mark II driven by Ken Miles. And uh in the 24 hours of Le Mon and Um I wanted that car so bad it had gold wing it it had the great sort of weirdo kind of half gold wing doors. I would never fit in that car. It had to be driven by somebody who weighed 135 pounds. Like it was really, really small. But I actually have the car on a die cast model of the car on my wall.
Melissa Bacheler
Oh, that's fun.
Pete Wright
behind me. I loved, loved, loved that car. I love the the era that era of Le Mon cars were really special. And um now uh it would be, you know Uh I I got a lot of of favorite cars right now. I kind of celebrate the whole vehicle, the whole class of vehicles. Uh but I'm also really happy with the car I drive. I actually I'm driving a car that I really, really love. And um so it's hard to imagine getting into and insuring the kind of car that I would that I would fantasize about.
Melissa Bacheler
Right.
Pete Wright
Yeah. I think I could buy I think I could buy the GT forty. That Ford brought it back and they make the GT for they made a uh for a a couple, a handful of GT forties. um some years ago that you could get for like eight million dollars. Like they're there it's ridiculous. They're ridiculous cars. But I'm I love them. That's all. That's my whole story.
Melissa Bacheler
I like that.
Nikki Kinzer
There you go.
Melissa Bacheler
Did you guys ever name your cars?
Nikki Kinzer
No.
Pete Wright
Weirdly, my sob was called Doctor Turbo.
Nikki Kinzer
Of course it was.
Pete Wright
I name everything Doctor.
Nikki Kinzer
Yeah, everything's doctor, yeah.
Pete Wright
Is that weird? Yeah. I that's clearly I needed to go back for my PhD.
Nikki Kinzer
Guess so
Pete Wright
I just yeah.
Melissa Bacheler
A lot of honorary doctor it's thrown around.
Pete Wright
Lot of honorary doctorates. Yeah.
Melissa Bacheler
Doctor Turbo is pretty amazing. I have to ask, did you ask for like John Elway to like autograph the dash or something?
Pete Wright
Yeah. No, we had no connection with him. It was just my my dad's best friend at the time. guy named Peter Hoppmeyer and he ran a large uh used car wholesale business up and down the front range from Denver to Pueblo.
Melissa Bacheler
Oh, okay
Pete Wright
And so he actually he's the one who knew John and
Melissa Bacheler
Gotcha
Pete Wright
had helped him in the past get into some cars. And so we never got the connection. We just got the car.
Melissa Bacheler
Oh, can you imagine how much that dash would have gone for even in your bottomed out car?
Pete Wright
I know.
Nikki Kinzer
Yeah, no kidding.
Pete Wright
I know, right?
Nikki Kinzer
Yeah.
Pete Wright
Could have paid for a new car.
Melissa Bacheler
I think so, a little bit.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Melissa Bacheler
Well, with all of this what if of our favorite cars, we're gonna move now to
Pete Wright
like a uh category that I have I didn't know.
Melissa Bacheler
My final uh category that I have entitled What if fantasies and those things that you think about and oh what if this happened? Wouldn't that be nice? Or I wonder what this would be like. And so my first question is actually just for Pete. Pete, if you could have any fictional character, fictional character, as your ADHD coach, who would it be and why?
Pete Wright
I want Mary Poppins to to because then er occasionally, this is one thing.
Melissa Bacheler
Interesting.
Pete Wright
This is, I think, a real hole in what what Nikki brings to the show, which is occasionally I I think Nikki should start singing.
Melissa Bacheler
Breaking in a slog
Pete Wright
This is just so sometimes we deal with hard topics.
Nikki Kinzer
Oh boy. No, you don't.
Pete Wright
And I think Nikki should break into song. And I think Mary Poppins is that same sort of kind Nikki energy, but with more singing.
Nikki Kinzer
With more singing, yeah.
Pete Wright
And that's where I think we would that's where I think we would uh end up.
Nikki Kinzer
I think you should be the singer. You're the singer.
Pete Wright
But not when Mary Poppins is around.
Nikki Kinzer
You were in a group.
Pete Wright
Oh no. No, I'm just sitting around eating spoonfuls of sugar.
Nikki Kinzer
Oh, that's funny.
Pete Wright
That's all I do.
Melissa Bacheler
Which is super great when you're trying to coach someone with ADHD.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
Right? Yeah, that is super great.
Melissa Bacheler
Take, take.
Nikki Kinzer
Bring your sugar to the session
Melissa Bacheler
I'm gonna put I'm gonna hit your sugar.
Pete Wright
Yeah. Right.
Melissa Bacheler
I'm just gonna fill this spoon with sugar and I'll talk to you while you eat it.
Pete Wright
Uh-huh.
Nikki Kinzer
I'll have my mic and ike, so it'll be good.
Melissa Bacheler
Yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
We'll have a great conversation.
Pete Wright
Outstanding.
Melissa Bacheler
Oh my goodness gracious. Well, you know what? I did like that answer, uh, Mary Poppins Well, this next one, I made a little story out of it. So uh give me a second as I set the scene for this what if So imagine that your podcast co-hosts, so Pete for you, it would be Nikki, Nikki, for you, Pete. They're no longer able to continue to host this show with you. Maybe they were abducted by aliens. Maybe they decided to swear a vow of silence for whatever reason. But whatever the case. The show must go on. And uh you have to get yourself a new co-host.
Pete Wright
This is like the podcast hall pass.
Melissa Bacheler
Who
Nikki Kinzer
Right, yeah.
Melissa Bacheler
Yeah, right?
Nikki Kinzer
Weird.
Melissa Bacheler
So who would your number one talk put top pick be to have as your new co-host. And we will expand that because obviously this is a silly situation to begin with.
Pete Wright
Yeah, we will.
Melissa Bacheler
They can be living or dead, real or fictional.
Pete Wright
Jacob we're living our dead.
Melissa Bacheler
Who would you choose to co-host this podcast with you?
Nikki Kinzer
First of all, if anything did happen, I can tell you right off the bat that the podcast would probably be no longer. If one of us could not do it, the taking control of the ADHD podcast would come to an end. I that's the truth.
Pete Wright
It it's uh you know, in a whole world.
Nikki Kinzer
Now in a fictional world, I think I would probably do, I wouldn't have a co-host.
Pete Wright
I because I was getting as a has a telephone
Nikki Kinzer
I think I would just have random people come in and help me.
Melissa Bacheler
Oh
Nikki Kinzer
you know, at different times. Like, and I wouldn't do it on a weekly basis. It would just be like, Ari Techman, coming over and, you know, we're chatting and interviewing somebody or interviewing him. But like I don't I think I just would have random. people Sharon Celine all of our people that we like James Ochoa I don't know random I don't know yeah
Pete Wright
That's very real and very grounded of you to say that. Like there's no there what happened to the fantastical crazy pics?
Nikki Kinzer
Well, I also did think of the the very first thing I thought of, Pete, was getting an AI version of you.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
Because we could do that.
Pete Wright
That is the perfect answer. That is the perfect answer.
Nikki Kinzer
Yeah. That was the first because remember when you used to wear your little headset and you were like in reality and you kind of looked fake anyway?
Pete Wright
Yeah. Yeah. Used to. That's like Monday morning day one.
Nikki Kinzer
Like Right, yeah.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
So I could see that happening as well.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
Like here's fake Pete.
Melissa Bacheler
Oh my gosh, I love that so much.
Pete Wright
Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Because I am somebody my first like the one fantasy that I have is I want to be uploaded to the cloud. Like when I'm on my deathbed and like I've eaten all the Twinkies and ding-dongs that I could possibly eat. I want to be like jacked in and uploaded to the cloud. So the I that is perfect. That is per I am the Lawnmower Man ADHD fantasy. Like that's what I want. And so I you have my permission to create an AI version of me.
Nikki Kinzer
All right, good to know.
Pete Wright
Yeah, the show will go forever.
Nikki Kinzer
Everyone's not going to be able to get it.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Melissa Bacheler
Because when Nikki's ready to go, she will also be uploaded to the cloud.
Pete Wright
Um I Yeah. She has not given us permission. We're just gonna do it.
Melissa Bacheler
We're just gonna do it.
Pete Wright
I think my fantasy would be like ADHD celebrities whose ADHD is worse than mine because
Nikki Kinzer
Oh, that would be fun.
Pete Wright
I would I would love to be like the super grounded one on the show. I am an ADHD relevant relativist, and if like If people who are really like when they're off when they're not on script, their ADHD is loud, like those are those are my people. I would do an another rotate rotating cast of just major celebrities whose ADHD. is off the hook.
Nikki Kinzer
It's off the rails.
Pete Wright
Yeah, that's what I want. That would be it.
Melissa Bacheler
I love that.
Nikki Kinzer
That's fine.
Pete Wright
I love that.
Melissa Bacheler
I love that you didn't stick with one idea.
Pete Wright
I love that.
Melissa Bacheler
It makes me think of like what Kelly Rippa did after Ree just left the show. Is she just had different people come in to co-host. Every once in a while.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Melissa Bacheler
Um, I don't know if they ever landed on somebody, but um, that's fun.
Nikki Kinzer
Her husband, I think, is doing it.
Melissa Bacheler
I like them. Oh, really
Nikki Kinzer
Or Brian Seacrest.
Pete Wright
Sea Crest?
Nikki Kinzer
I don't know. I don't watch it.
Pete Wright
I don't know, I don't watch it. Yeah. I was always in it for Regis.
Melissa Bacheler
All right, and as we are rounding out, this is actually gonna be our final question.
Pete Wright
Alright, and as we are highlighted, I was a high now
Melissa Bacheler
It does come in a couple of parts. I thought it might be fun. If an album was created with a soundtrack for your life What are certain songs or genres of music that would play during different portions of your life? So, like early childhood, what kind of music do you think would be on your soundtrack?
Nikki Kinzer
I I don't know if I listened to music in my early childhood. I remember my parents' music. Like I remember my dad had all the Lynn Linda Ronsted albums. They had a Bee Gees album. They had a little little river band album that I used to listen to. So I would say that it would be like music that I would hear them listening to for early childhood.
Pete Wright
I I went I spent like I built a playlist. I built the album that you asked for. I have so many tracks that we're gonna talk through. Don't worry, I've got you. So for my teens or my little kid era, it would have been stuff like Rainbow Connection, Kermit the Frog, right?
Melissa Bacheler
I love this.
Pete Wright
It would have been Pure Imagination, Gene Wilder, it would have been some Kenny Loggins uh uh stuff, even though that Kenny Loggins
Melissa Bacheler
Trois
Pete Wright
Um, you know, his R uh House at Pooh Corner didn't come out until I was in my teens. Like that was that was a big favorite. That would I would retroactively put that on the early childhood years. Um, and and then probably Neil Diamond, because that was to Nikki's point, yeah, there was a ton of Neil Diamond in my house.
Nikki Kinzer
Oh, yes I did see that in the movie theater too, the the Neil Diamond song.
Pete Wright
America, yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
Um America. Yeah, I remember seeing that with my parents.
Pete Wright
Yep. Yeah, the jazz singer.
Nikki Kinzer
That's so weird that you mentioned that.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Melissa Bacheler
Uh what about for your teenage years or when you're in high school?
Nikki Kinzer
Oh, easy.
Melissa Bacheler
What would be on your soundtrack?
Nikki Kinzer
Depeche mode, the cure, new order, erasure, um
Pete Wright
Yeah, or I think that's not a good one.
Nikki Kinzer
all of that like at the time was kind of alternative music.
Pete Wright
All of that like all the time.
Nikki Kinzer
Loved it all.
Pete Wright
Yeah, uh for me it includes all of it's like a superset of what Nikki just said. It's Jane's addiction, it's Pearl Jam, it's It's uh Foo Fighters at Smashing Pumpkins. It's they might be giants. Um, it's and and in my teens I found prints. So every one of these eras has additional prince-related content. It's
Nikki Kinzer
Yeah, definitely.
Pete Wright
And this sort of era appropriate prince contribution would be like Purple Rain when Doves Cry, I Would Die For You, Beautiful Ones.
Nikki Kinzer
Yeah.
Pete Wright
Like Those are the kinds of those are the tracks that I was. But because of that, I was also going back to the the early controversy. Um you know, m albums that Prince albums that w were released when I was not allowed to listen to Prince. And um so I was also listening to that. Out of era. But
Nikki Kinzer
Yeah, I would say early teens like uh middle school was definitely Prince and like Madonna and
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
Cindy Lopper and all of that. And then it was in high school that I more liked the the more alternative stuff.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
Um but college and twenties
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
things kind of switched a little bit. I would say that in college it was still kind of like pop music, whatever was being kind of
Pete Wright
I mean at all. Yeah, but even push eight fifty on the ring on that energy might be full.
Nikki Kinzer
on the radio at that time. But it was in my mid-20s that I started liking country music.
Melissa Bacheler
Oh, interesting.
Pete Wright
Oh, okay.
Nikki Kinzer
Yeah. Yeah. Where I started liking Tim McGraw and Kenny Chesney and um
Pete Wright
Yeah
Nikki Kinzer
Faith Hill at the time was big.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
Um, Dixie Chicks, I I loved them. And I started and that's when I started going to concerts too.
Pete Wright
And I tell you I have like the company.
Nikki Kinzer
So I would start seeing people. Um
Pete Wright
For sure. For sure. Yeah, my college twenties, uh, they were like Matthew Sweet. Um David Gray, the Postal Service. I think Arcade Fire was in my twenties. Um but of course the Prince era stuff we're talking about, like Seven, the most beautiful girl in the world. Um money don't matter tonight. Nothing compares to you. Sinead O'Connor did it, but it was Prince's song, and the Prince version of that is it was on heavy repeat. Um so yeah, that kind of stuff. Thirties on the T I
Melissa Bacheler
Yeah, what about your thirties?
Nikki Kinzer
Uh definitely still country, a lot of country, but the uh it's also when I started listening to Jason Moraz.
Pete Wright
That's the Jason Moraz era, okay.
Nikki Kinzer
Um That's when I started getting into Jason Moraz and like more of like hi the uh people around him, like Ed Sheeran, um
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
Sarah Burales. I'm probably not saying her name right. Um and so like that kind of music I really liked in my 30s, but still definitely very country. Yeah.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
Same with my forties, too.
Pete Wright
I I would add the killers. I listened to a ton of the killers in my thirties, Mr. Brightside, when you were young, Read My Mind. Coldplay was this is when I you know, when Coldplay became a thing for me. Uh Muse. Death Cab. Death Cab for Cutie. Oh my god. Lots of death cab. I will follow you into the dark.
Melissa Bacheler
Pete, I never knew this about you.
Pete Wright
Oh, totally.
Melissa Bacheler
Uh you're see it you're your 30s, like the these sogs are speaking to me.
Pete Wright
Yeah, right. And and uh my Prince era of my 30s was like musicology and black sweat and cream. and get off and and that was kind of what I was listening to of of Prince in my 30s. But by the by my 30s I'd seen Prince in concert like five times. And so I was um that was a that was just a big part of my music career. So 40s. Uh so Nikki, you said you didn't change much in your 40s. You were still listening to the same kind of stuff.
Nikki Kinzer
I still listen to the same stuff.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
Yeah. And it wasn't until my f until
Pete Wright
And it wasn't as delayed.
Nikki Kinzer
Taylor Swift came out with the Eras Tour movie that after I watched that, whenever that was a couple of years ago, then I started becoming a big fan of Taylor Swift.
Pete Wright
Okay. Yeah. I I added uh Boni Vare, the National, Wilco, uh Elbow, Death more d I just death cab is uh on the list of my 40. just because I found Stay Young, Go Dancing is one of the songs that was on heavy repeat now fairly recently. The Prince area era we're talking about gold, the gold standard million days, reflection, those kinds of tracks. Um and that leads to today, which is weirdly like it's weird to find a new fandom. Like I listen to a lot of contemporary music. Like I like music a lot and I like bringing it into my life. And but it's weird to say I have found a band. that I am a legitimate fan of and listen to their whole thing. And that right now is Lawrence. Uh I am obsessed with with Lawrence. I listen to it all the time. So um, you know uh probably up 23, guy I used to be, like those kinds of uh of tracks from Lawrence I could listen to all day long and do. And my kids don't like Lawrence, but Kira does, so we're all Lawrence right now.
Melissa Bacheler
Yeah, it's the
Pete Wright
I would include Vampire Weekend, uh L C D sound system, beach house, um, and still listening to Prince, uh Breakfast Can Wait, Cloud Stare, like uh I I made a playlist, y'all. Like I have these tracks in a list that I uh that I can add.
Nikki Kinzer
Yeah, you did.
Melissa Bacheler
You should totally post this because I would listen to that playlist.
Pete Wright
It's a good playlist. It's a good playlist. I'll put it on Spotify and Apple Music. I will do that.
Melissa Bacheler
Love it.
Pete Wright
Uh I just have to say, I I haven't lit been reading the chat, but what just came up is Brian saying, Pete, I thought you were gonna say Lawrence Welk.
Nikki Kinzer
Awesome
Melissa Bacheler
What are you listening? Oh, I was gonna say Nikki didn't did Yeah.
Pete Wright
Brian.
Melissa Bacheler
Nikki, did you say what music you're listening to today?
Nikki Kinzer
But so funny. Uh Taylor Swift, definitely.
Melissa Bacheler
Oh, that's right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
Like a cause ever yeah, after I watched her errors.
Pete Wright
Like that yeah, after I watched her hair because then I don't uh I don't like it.
Nikki Kinzer
But then I still um Still listen to country. Not as much as uh I I don't listen to country as much as I used to because I don't know a lot of who the new people are. Um I saw a little bit of the CMAs last week and I was like, I don't know who a lot of these people are so I obviously don't listen.
Melissa Bacheler
You know Beyonce.
Pete Wright
Yeah, country.
Nikki Kinzer
Yeah, but I don't think she's country at all.
Melissa Bacheler
So weird. So weird.
Pete Wright
One? She's got one.
Melissa Bacheler
I know it's weird
Nikki Kinzer
Yeah. And she won country album of the year, which is ridiculous.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
Come on, people. She is not a country singer.
Pete Wright
I'll I'll throw in uh Lizzo. I'm fascinated by Lizzo. I think Lizzo is a really neat person and And so, so freaking talented. And the other one that is kinda it's one of those like guilty pleasure acts today that I listen to unironically because Um, you know, my family likes her a lot is Sabrina Carpenter, who we've been watching since Girl Meets World.
Nikki Kinzer
Yeah.
Pete Wright
When my kids were at that age, that was their show. They loved that show. And she was, of course. on that show. And now she's a pop star and she's legit funny. Like her tracks are subversive. And if you've never watched her videos, they are Great. Her music videos are fantastic. And I will throw in another kids group that has grown up and sort of grown into me. AJR. I listen to a ton of AJR too.
Melissa Bacheler
That's my son's favorite group.
Pete Wright
That's a great. It's a good band, good band. Yep.
Melissa Bacheler
It is very good.
Nikki Kinzer
I like Maroon Five.
Pete Wright
Absolutely. Maroon 5.
Melissa Bacheler
Classic
Nikki Kinzer
I do
Pete Wright
And and Maroon 5 before they were Maroon 5 was Vertical Horizon. I used to listen to a lot of Vertical Horizon in college. This is, I could do, we could go on.
Nikki Kinzer
Yeah.
Pete Wright
I don't know.
Nikki Kinzer
He has ADHD.
Melissa Bacheler
Can go on.
Pete Wright
We don't need to, but Yes, Adam, you bet.
Melissa Bacheler
He does not
Nikki Kinzer
Adam. Yeah. We need to get him on the show.
Pete Wright
That's right.
Melissa Bacheler
All right, I will add that to my uh holiday uh time off list is to get Adam Levine.
Nikki Kinzer
I would die.
Pete Wright
There we go.
Nikki Kinzer
I would be fangirling over here. All right. Well thanks, Melissa.
Pete Wright
Good job, Melissa.
Nikki Kinzer
This was fun.
Melissa Bacheler
Thanks.
Pete Wright
Yeah, that was really fun
Melissa Bacheler
Yeah, it was a lot of fun. And I feel like I mean I've known you guys for a while and I feel like I learned a lot about you today. Like Nikki I think Pete and I both you heard that we were uh kind of surprised when you said that you liked country music so much. Uh because I think both of us were like, really?
Nikki Kinzer
Oh.
Melissa Bacheler
And weren't expecting you to say them.
Nikki Kinzer
Yeah
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
Yeah, I liked it a lot for a long time.
Melissa Bacheler
So I think we all learned a little something today.
Pete Wright
That's awesome.
Nikki Kinzer
Still do. Still do. I Chris Stapleton, one of my favorites. Oh man, that boy that man has a smooth voice.
Pete Wright
I what was the Garth Brooks I'm a Garth I like Garth Brooks.
Nikki Kinzer
I like Arsberg's, yep, for sure.
Pete Wright
What was the Garth Brooks that he released that wasn't him? It was for the movie that never got released. It was the soundtrack. Um I really like that.
Nikki Kinzer
Or he's a different persona.
Pete Wright
Mm-hmm.
Nikki Kinzer
Chris something.
Pete Wright
That was a great album. Chris was it Chris?
Nikki Kinzer
I don't remember. I know what you're talking about though.
Pete Wright
All right.
Nikki Kinzer
I saw Garth Brooks in concert at Austin Stadium a few years ago, and it was pretty amazing.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
He's a good entertainer for sure.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
It was fun.
Pete Wright
The life of Chris Gaines.
Nikki Kinzer
That's what it is, yeah.
Pete Wright
Chris Gaines. Yeah. That's a great album.
Nikki Kinzer
Yeah. I also was a big Chris Isaac fan in my 20s.
Pete Wright
Awesome.
Nikki Kinzer
I saw him a couple times and a few times in concert.
Pete Wright
Oh yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
Chris Isaac.
Pete Wright
Yeah.
Nikki Kinzer
I liked him a lot.
Pete Wright
Wicked game. Wicked game
Nikki Kinzer
Oh, that's a great song.
Pete Wright
Oh Chris Isaac, you crooner.
Nikki Kinzer
Yeah. Yeah.
Pete Wright
Alright, alright.
Nikki Kinzer
All right.
Pete Wright
We gotta hang this is our longest episode ever in the world, and we gotta hang it up.
Nikki Kinzer
I know. We gotta go.
Pete Wright
Uh thank you so much, Melissa, for hosting this.
Melissa Bacheler
That's not true.
Pete Wright
quiz show. So appreciate you for doing this. And thank you everybody for hanging out with us, listening to this episode and the entirety of season 31. Thank you so much for being here. And um Thank you for your time and your attention. We will be back in the new year. Have a great, great holiday season. Happy Thanksgiving. Happy Hanukkah. Merry Christmas. Happy Kwanzaa and all the other things that I'm forgetting. But we hope your holiday season is full of peace and grace and judgment-free good times. Thanks everybody.